[OM Cooker] desktop-common-data soft dir

Easy question,
Should we re-use POK's moondrake or merge to Mageia's?

Why on earth would you need to replace what's in desktop-common-data?

That's just plain dumb.
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Matthew Dawkins

2013-07-30 14:20:42 UTC

Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent adding
in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen

Easy question,
Should we re-use POK's moondrake or merge to Mageia's?

Why on earth would you need to replace what's in desktop-common-data?
That's just plain dumb.
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Matthew Dawkins

2013-07-30 14:38:44 UTC

Umm the avatars aren't mine. So don't start on me like that. They're from
the OMDV graphics team.

I'm sorry, I'm trying to make out the rest of what your are saying, but I
don't want to misunderstand it more.

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent adding
in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.
umm, the avatars from Per Øyvind be from the Community in the Mandrake
Forum ..
had meant Mandriva Forum
and was not directly surely from Per, was from the Community to use the
old path of MDK with the Pinguins..
And if you opinion it is to be the new Installer in sence of MDK, so
you're wrong,
because MDV was ever a thing of free will and own selefting of the user,
this new installer it's the last crap imho !
Maybe it is the drakcenter into OMV but this it is not the real soul of
MDK this is a whant have a new installer from
anyone else.. but i bet, not from the Users/ Community.. because the
Installer from Mandrake/Mandriva
it is 1000X Testet and 1000 works (or more) !
Per have right .. imo !
best regards
Blacky
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen <

Easy question,
Should we re-use POK's moondrake or merge to Mageia's?

Why on earth would you need to replace what's in desktop-common-data?
That's just plain dumb.
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Blackcrack

2013-07-30 14:34:22 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent
adding in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.

umm, the avatars from Per Øyvind be from the Community in the Mandrake
Forum ..
and was not directly surely from Per, was from the Community to use the
old path of MDK with the Pinguins..
And if you opinion it is to be the new Installer in sence of MDK, so
you're wrong,
because MDV was ever a thing of free will and own selefting of the user,
this new installer it's the last crap imho !

Maybe it is the drakcenter into OMV but this it is not the real soul of
MDK this is a whant have a new installer from
anyone else.. but i bet, not from the Users/ Community.. because the
Installer from Mandrake/Mandriva
it is 1000X Testet and 1000 works (or more) !

Per have right .. imo !

best regards
Blacky

Post by Matthew Dawkins
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen
Easy question,
Should we re-use POK's moondrake or merge to Mageia's?
Why on earth would you need to replace what's in desktop-common-data?
That's just plain dumb.
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Blackcrack

2013-07-30 14:36:07 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent
adding in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.

umm, the avatars from Per Øyvind be from the Community in the Mandrake
Forum ..

had meant Mandriva Forum

Post by Matthew Dawkins
and was not directly surely from Per, was from the Community to use
the old path of MDK with the Pinguins..
And if you opinion it is to be the new Installer in sence of MDK, so
you're wrong,
because MDV was ever a thing of free will and own selefting of the
user, this new installer it's the last crap imho !
Maybe it is the drakcenter into OMV but this it is not the real soul
of MDK this is a whant have a new installer from
anyone else.. but i bet, not from the Users/ Community.. because the
Installer from Mandrake/Mandriva
it is 1000X Testet and 1000 works (or more) !
Per have right .. imo !
best regards
Blacky

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 15:55:48 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent adding
in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.

And what is the problem with this?
Anything preventing you from adding a new set of avatars to
desktop-common-data and make a subpackage for it in same fashion as with
the existing ones?

Just add it to the desktop-common-data git repo (you should have write
access to it), bump version, generate a tarball etc..

What is it that you don't get?

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Matthew Dawkins

2013-07-30 16:05:46 UTC

Go back and read the original question please.

Which source do we use? is the simplified version...

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Umm because we have new avatars and someone has been quite diligent
adding in his own taste of circa 1998 graphics.

And what is the problem with this?
Anything preventing you from adding a new set of avatars to
desktop-common-data and make a subpackage for it in same fashion as with
the existing ones?
Just add it to the desktop-common-data git repo (you should have write
access to it), bump version, generate a tarball etc..
What is it that you don't get?
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 16:20:51 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Go back and read the original question please.
Which source do we use? is the simplified version...

My answer should've been obvious enough..
Keep the one already used.

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Matthew Dawkins

2013-07-30 16:28:57 UTC

Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c afaik
moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Go back and read the original question please.
Which source do we use? is the simplified version...

My answer should've been obvious enough..
Keep the one already used.
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Robert Xu

2013-07-30 16:43:56 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c

afaik moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.
Yeah, I did that this week.

thanks,
Robert Xu

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 16:52:23 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c

afaik moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.
Yeah, I did that this week.

What's the point of this? The branch under 'moondrake' is writable for
everyone to commit to..
The group could be named whatever, the intention was to rename it, but
never got that far.

No point in creating separate branches of everything under moondrake/* when
I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under there and what
is to be consdered as upstream.

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Matthew Dawkins

2013-07-30 16:55:22 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c

afaik moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.
Yeah, I did that this week.

What's the point of this? The branch under 'moondrake' is writable for
everyone to commit to..
The group could be named whatever, the intention was to rename it, but
never got that far.
No point in creating separate branches of everything under moondrake/*
when I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under there and
what is to be consdered as upstream.

I believe this is exactly what we are trying to avoid.

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 17:24:34 UTC

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen <

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c

afaik moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.
Yeah, I did that this week.

What's the point of this? The branch under 'moondrake' is writable for
everyone to commit to..
The group could be named whatever, the intention was to rename it, but
never got that far.
No point in creating separate branches of everything under moondrake/*
when I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under there and
what is to be consdered as upstream.

I believe this is exactly what we are trying to avoid.

Which is exactly why it's better to just have that group renamed in stead
of creating new branches and more fork hysteria with silly confusion and
question attached, which you in fact will be creating by forking into
separate branches and what not.

There is one upstream branch, use it, don't go on and create separate
branches to create confusion about what's upstream or not over something
silly as naming that's of no relevance.

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Robert Xu

2013-07-30 17:40:22 UTC

Post by Matthew Dawkins
Right. I agree, and I'm not sure why this discussion is going on b/c

afaik moondrake/desktop-common-data was forked into omv-software.

Post by Robert Xu
Yeah, I did that this week.

What's the point of this? The branch under 'moondrake' is writable for

everyone to commit to..

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
The group could be named whatever, the intention was to rename it, but

never got that far.

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
No point in creating separate branches of everything under moondrake/*

when I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under there and
what is to be consdered as upstream.
I wasn't aware we could rename groups; otherwise, I would have asked to do
so.

I believe we stuck with omv_software to have the soft/ feel like we had
with MDV's SVN, with the soft repository.

thanks,
Robert Xu

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 18:40:30 UTC

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:55:22 -0600

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
No point in creating separate branches of everything under moondrake/*
when I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under there

and

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
what is to be consdered as upstream.

nope.
Upstream is depending on the package. For some it's Mageia, for others it's
ourselves, ...

Which for all of the packages in question are the repos that I'm using.

I'm not sure of what packages you refer to that has Mageia as upstream, I
have myself been the one maintaining all of these for the past couple of
years.

Don't think we're going to split this up or change that, again. I think
that
we're all happy to join forces where possible, but there really is no
reason in
why to have the moondrake repo for half of the things and omv_software for
the
rest.

And since I've imported everything to one place already and is doing the
wast majority of all the maintenance work, there's no sense in forking
stuff into separate repos just to satisfy someone's obsession over naming.

Also you most possibly will strongly disagree when we change default

configs and artwork for omv.

No, you don't change the default for everyone, you change the default for
whatever flavour that you want to maintain.
Everything related to this has support for multiple without the need for
separate repos or anything, everything can go into one master branch,
unless anyone has some specific need for other trees for their work that's
not suitable to go "upstream".

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind

Per Øyvind Karlsen

2013-07-30 23:55:05 UTC

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:40:30 +0200

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:55:22 -0600

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
No point in creating separate branches of everything under

moondrake/*

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
when I'm the one who's the main maintainer of everything under

there

and

Post by Per Ãyvind Karlsen
what is to be consdered as upstream.

nope.
Upstream is depending on the package. For some it's Mageia, for others

it's